Elias Skavronski explained "MK" than the child did before and after the detention

A couple of days ago, 9-year-old Oscar and could not dream of such glory. But now the whole country knows the boy's face, which was arrested on the Arbat Square for reading the monologue of Hamlet. A spelling history was discussed by the media, made their assessments about what is happening social network users, argued politicians, lawyers, show business stars.

But there are still no answers to some questions. For example, the reaction of the Native Mother of the Oscar on the incident remained behind the scenes. It is also strange why guards of the order claim that the boy was engaged in begging, and the Relatives of the reader say the opposite. The father of the schoolboy Elias Skavronsky handed out the interview selectively. He uttered his own monologue through video broadcasting on his page in the social network.

MK found out the details of the father's biography of the detained child and his stepmother.

Despite the hype, Alias's live broadcast (so Ilya calls himself on the net), the Skavronsky listened to about 200 people. The man was sitting in front of the screen in sunglasses. His spouse Christina was nearby. That the most woman who tried to repel the Oscar from the police, introducing himself to a neighbor.

- She was confused. Who else was she presented? Stepmother? We do not call Christina in the family. That it came to mind, topics introduced, - answered Elias video broadcast.

- Where is Oscar's native mother?

- She lives with us next door. It turned out that we broke up. She has its own family, we have their own. Oscar lives with me. Mother communicates.

- Where is Oscar now?

- Oscar now with me.

(Children's voice was distributed several times. The father immediately interrupted the broadcast: "Oscar, come out of the room, please, here are adult conversations.")

- How does an Oscar feel after what happened?

- The boy holds. He is tired. Almost after all worried. We will refer to a psychologist.

- Explain again: why did the child detained?

- He was detained by police for some kind of reasons. I believe that he was detained on lawlessness. In a word, for nothing. The protocol wrote: For begging. But then the protocol, which they made up, crumbled.

- How, in your opinion, did police officers behave during the boy's detention if he rolled the hysteria?

- City cameras will show how he behaved at first, - he was calm. Also on the chambers we will see how the guards of order were roaring with the child. All the actions of the police recorded and will be carefully investigated. The problem is not in the fact that Oscar was taken to the police station. The problem is how he was taken away.

- Now many believe that all that happened is a planned provocation ...

- Yes, there is such an opinion. It upsets me. In allegedly provocations accused a journalist, which turned out to be near. My spouse was not familiar with her before. The injury of this girl began. I do not know what normal parent Would put so much your child.

- Where were you at the moment of the incident?

- I was at the studio, worked. Christina - at the scene.

- Why did your spouse screamed so, behaved inadequate?

- She did not know where the boy takes. And now it is not problems to get the form of a policeman and the car. She did not understand who these people and what they can do with the child.

- How do you live in my homeland now? Didn't breathe harder?

- I did not feel much harder in my homeland because of three idiots.

- Why don't you shoot glasses? Maybe you are under a kayf?

- For no first time I ask this question. I can take glasses. But I have blushed eyes because of the sleepless nights, the vessels flooded ...

- And yet your son collected money?

- I repeat once again: he did not collect money. The child is still too young to earn thus.

- But he was often seen on Arbat reading poems ...

- To say how many times how many days or weeks he stood on Arbat and told poems, I can't. But read poems - does not mean begging. Why do you feel about this as an extraordinary? ..

"Why did he then told the policeman, what did he say hello?"

- Where did you get this information? He did not say anything like that.

- Do you think it is normal that the boy on the street reads poems at that age?

- Well, why not? When the boy plays the ball on the street, after all the police officer does not fit, he does not come. Some children chase the ball, others read poetry. What do these children differ from each other? . Just like classes.

- Oscar is engaged in some sections?

- He is studying at school with an English bias. Engaged in theatrical circle. Visits rhythmics.

- You yourself do what?

- I am writing music. Engage in design.

- True, what did you live in Ukraine, did you come here recently and remove the apartment?

- I was on affairs in Ukraine. You can not say that I lived there, and came here.

- They say your son wants to invite Ivan Urgant to the program, so that the boy read his poems there. Will you go?

- I would love to go, but on another occasion.

- Surely you will be called you for other talk shows?

- I'm not going anywhere. Already regretted that the interview with some media distributed.

After the termination of the transmission of "MK" also contacted Elias to clarify several points.

- How was your day with Oscar after what happened? Probably reassured him?

- The son was at home with a relative all day. Helped her cook lunch. He drove a lot. It did not go to the street.

- Did you discuss this story with him?

- We did not talk about this topic. Did not even remember.

"But he probably is unlikely to come to Arbat to read poems?"

- We did not talk about it about it.

- And yet you knew that your son often came to Arbat and earned money with reading poems? There are eyewitnesses who saw him on Arbat.

- That's whoever says, to that and contact. I can not respond to the words of other people. If you are going to talk to me on this topic, then we will finish the conversation right away.

On an innocent question, why the father's father changed the name Ilya on Elias and took himself the harmonious surname of the Skavronsky, the man also refused to answer. For all other issues relating to family life, Chet Skavronski also chose to dare.

What can I say? Of course, the parents of the Arbat Hamlet have the right to privacy. But not in the case when their private life will be the will of the case (and police-khamov) becomes public domain. Oscar detention itself occurred under strange circumstances. So, be prepared that journalists will learn your personal life, which is called, under a microscope. And here silence is not gold.

On the Internet on the personal site, a man points out its activities: "Cinematography, design, music, photography." In the capital, Skavronsky is known as a model photographer. Elias specializes in psychological survey and nude nature. In the pictures dated 2014, we see His current spouse Christine. Christina then left a letter of thanks on his website: "Pleasant conversations, relaxes and karma cleansing is guaranteed."

But some quotes of the Warvarovski people twisted themselves on the wall. Here are the excerpts from the post of the photographer, which they scored the most likes. Elias talks about what people are regret in old age: "You will regret that there were too compounds, frightened, serious and corresponded to the generally accepted norms of" right "," worthy "," successful "behavior in society. You will regret that too much was afraid. You will regret that I have not done a crazy deed, did not challenge the circumstances, the world. "

It is quite logical that Elias tried to liberate his son with a young nail. So that certainly did not regret the old age.

Now the network has conversations that the Father Oscar is from Kiev. We could not find confirmation by these words. On one of the pages in the social network, Skavronsky pointed the place of birth: the city of Osh, Kyrgyzstan.

What is known about the Oscar stepmother? The girl positions itself on the pages in the social network as a successful model. Presents parameters: height 175, 82-59-89, size S, shoes 40, experience in photo, video and filming is present. Indicates experience: "Model (work abroad), actress (" terrible nanny "(Russia, 2014)," Magnificent Lee "(China, 2014, episode)," final verdict "(episode)," Love Thread "(Episode ), shooting in the crowd. "Education: Tourist Service Manager.

Christina comes from Krasnoyarsk. In 2008, the title "Miss Elegance" has won there.

- Christina left Krasnoyarsk five years ago. Here she was an administrator at the School of Models, "says the familiar Skavron. - She was a professional model. About the current husband told a little. I remember only that she spoke about their relationship, about the marriage, which we all believed perfect. About the fact that the spouse has a son from the first marriage, I did not hear anything.

- Skavronski - real last name?

- Maiden name Christina - Smennikov. But she had long changed her surname to Skavronsky. In general, Christina grew in a rather secured family. Why did she leave from his native city? Most likely, because of the career. In Krasnoyarsk, she had parents. And her former love Kirill. They lived together five years.

In addition to the model Career, Kristina built a business. At one time, the girl was the director of Skavronski LLC. The company was finishing work. The partner was listed by a former beloved model Kirill. But on the site district courts Krasnoyarsk we found information about civil courts in which Christina spent the plaintiff. In one claim, the Scavoronsky demanded to recover from Cyril Debt with interest. Other two ships were associated with apartment issues.

Apparently, the next court proceedings are waiting for SPavronsky.

On May 26, the police detained a 10-year-old boy in Moscow, recourse "Hamlet" in the Arbatskaya Metro district. He was suspected in beacon, was put in the car and delivered to the ATS. The video published by the witnesses of the incident was divided by the media and social networks, Children's Ombudsman and Press Secretary of the President expressed themselves.

What happened

On the evening of May 26 on the street Vozdvizhenka, near the Metro Station "Arbatskaya", police officers detained a 10-year-old boy who read passages from Shakespeare Shakespeare "Hamlet". Video with detention published In his facebook, the evidence of the incident Lucy Stein and activist Irina Yatsenko ( record Contains the surrounding vocabulary). Frames can be seen as police fiber fiber in the car, ignoring his resistance and screams of help. Three police officers took the child in the ARBAT ATS, which later came his parents.

According to the official data of the State Ministry of Internal Affairs in Moscow, the reason for the detention was the foundation of a boy in a public place without maintaining parents and begging. As the father of the boy's father, Ilya Skavronski, told the publishing house, His son does not begun, but "deals theater activities. For him, these exits to the street are the fight against complexes. "


For what and how the boy was detained on Arbat

(Video: RBC TV channel)

Where at the time of the detention were parents

According to the father, the child was not on one street. While reading the son of "Hamlet" his spouse is a child's stepmother - stood a few meters from him. "The wife sat, read the book, and the child recited Gamlet. Raised the Militia Outfit, they talked about something without her participation. Then twisted it, there is a video of what happened. They began to stuff - she came up, tried to prevent this, "he said. Skavronsky noted that the policemen behaved rudely and swore Mat.

Do police officers have the right to delay children?

The police have the right to delay and deliver to the persons who have not reached the age of adulthood. According to Article 14 of the Federal Law "On Police", in case of detention of a minor, an employee is obliged to notify his parents or legitimate representatives.

To delay the child may be for antisocial behavior - "Actions individualViolating generally accepted norms of behavior and morality, the rights and legitimate interests of others, "which are not entitled administrative or criminal liability.

Police officers can also be delivered to the department of any child, which will be discovered without maintaining parents at night (23: 00-7: 00 in Moscow) in a public place - on the street, stadium, in the park, square, in the bus and in the subway.

In some cases, police officers have the right to apply physical strength to a minor - to curb the offense, as well as with resistance to detention.

Drawing up protocols

Immediately after the boy's detention, his parents arrived in the ATS. In the message of the State Ministry of Internal Affairs in Moscow it says that "about 22 hours the boy was transferred to his father." A protocol on an administrative offense was drawn up on the article for the non-fulfillment of minors to educate juvenile. On his spouse - a protocol for disobedience to the police officer.

In the evening, the Chairman of the Public Council for the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the lawyer Anatoly Kucheren arrived in the police department. On video published Irina Yatsenko, Kucheren looks at the case materials, says the child's parents and police. Stepmother with a child left the department closer to midnight, the boy apologies were brought.

May 30 on the air Radio "Komsomolskaya Pravda" Deputy Head of the Office of Information and Public Relations of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in Moscow Yuri Titov stated that the child's native mother wrote a statement to the police by accusing His stepmother Kristina Skavronsky in the involvement of the child in begging (Art. 151 of the Criminal Code). According to the text of the statement, the boy asks for money on the street not the first time, despite the requests of the mother to the father of the child to ban it. In addition, the mother accused his wife Spavronski in the fact that she took the money from the child almost all the money earned, leaving him only a trifle.

Reaction

The day after the incident, the SC began the pre-investigation of the circumstances of the detention. Commissioner for the Rights of the Child Anna Kuznetsova

Ilya Skavronski, the father of the boy, scandalously detained in Moscow for reading poems on Arbat, before he lived and worked in Vladivostok. His friend from the seaside capital described in detail the "city in" about this family and denied the numerous specles around this story.

The grand scandal with the detainment of the Police officers of a 9-year-old boy who read the poem "Hamlet" on the Moscow Arbat, literally shook the country and split society into two irreconcilable camps. Millions of people have made a videos, on which the crying child is trying to repel the woman from the police who had his stepmother, and indignant the actions of the police officers. There was a lot of those who rose to the direction of law enforcement officers, accusing the parents that they were allegedly forced the boy to be abolished in order to replenish the family budget.

A resident of Vladivostok Kirill Busus, together with the famous photographer and designer Viktor Khmelik, worked in the same design bureau with the father of the boy Ilya in Vladivostok, well know him and his family, and support relationships with him so far.

Kirill Busus told the "city in" that Ilya came to work in the late 90s in his design bureau "Raise Titanic" even very young.

"Our office was located in the warforthy project. He stuck to us with some kind of label order, we planted it for the computer and said - let's learn. And he turned out to be very sensible, cheerfully began to master the graphic design and quickly joined the team. In 1998, we closed because of the crisis, and Ilya later opened his studio, he had an office on Peter the Great, and until 2002 he lived in Vladivostok. Then he left to the West, lived in Moscow, for some time in Kiev, and in 2014 again returned to the Russian capital.

We support relationships with him, regularly call up. This is normal, definitely not a poor family, live in prosperity, Ilya earns well, so it's not about the need for the need. Son Oscar since childhood lives with his father, although the mother also lives in Moscow, but they decided. Two years ago, Ilya and Kristina got married, I also know her too. A week ago, Ilya called me and just boasted that the son of Oscar was accompanied by Christina, his wife Ilya, walks to read Shakespeare for Arbat, and that he likes it. And it was not begging, they just came up, thanked him, and the boy was joy. "

Kirill does not exclude that the actions of the police were caused by completely different reasons. For many it is no secret that the Arbat is really developed underground business begging. Some do not exclude that this business can "hide", including those who have to follow the order, and instead fights with "competitors."

Ilya Skavronov himself wrote the following in the Facebook:

"A sad story came out in our family. I did not think that it could be in the first line of the news of Yandex. This applies to the brutal detention by the police of my son in the center of Moscow, as well as harming my wife. Official comments, on this incident, watch on the air of Westa, Life.

At the moment, the incident is resolved: the management of the Ministry of Internal Affairs brought personal apologies to the persons who committed the incompleteness are appointed verification of the SC and the prosecutor's office. At the moment, we are not charged. Shame media writing slander. All relevant statements are compiled and perpetrators will suffer punishment. Thank you good peopleproviding support.

And one more, the last post Ilya at this moment:

"I feel how my life is divided into" to "and" after. " "To", already, and what after - I do not know. I do not know that my family has done such that we are now as in the underworld. The phone does not cease from thirsty hot medivers, to the undisguised policemen. Second day without sleep. And the most frown is, when I write Friends that I am paid that, because of me, the heads of innocent police officers will fly and promise to arrange a goat. I do not feel any false, I am only to blame for one thing that I did not bought my wife and the son of ice cream and did not answer them to the movies, but better in the temple that day. "

Full Oscar Detention Video:

According to the police, the child was detained for begging. However, the boy's father assures that he is simply engaged in theatrical activities. This case promised to engage in children's ombudsman

Updated 18:14

The police apologized to the family of a ten-year-old boy detained in the center of Moscow for reading poems. This was reported by lawyer Tatiana Solmin. At the same time, the press service of the metropolitan head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs reported that the boy was engaged in begging, however, considering that he was not 16 years old, he is not a subject of administrative offense.

In addition, the police also noted that the child himself admitted that he was engaged in collecting money and at the time of communication with the police was unaccompanied by his parents, so the police decided to take it to clarify the circumstances. Video, as two police men lead to the car from the cinema "Artistic" at the Metro "Arbatskaya", appeared on the page in Facebook. The civil activist Irina Yatsenko, and some woman trying to prevent this:

- What are you doing? Please let go of a child.
(cries of a child)
- What are you doing?
- Hands off!

- Child let go, I said!
- What are you doing? Are you going crazy ?? What kind of chaos policeman?
- What hands do you think your hands, eh?
(cries of a child)
- You threw me. This is chaos! Help, please guys. They just take the child. I am familiar to him.
- Get out.
- I am a familiar child. Neighbor I am him.
- We need parents.
- I will contact my parents now. Let's talk.
- Close the door.
- No, let's talk.
- I say the door to close on the other side.
- Where are you driving it, tell me to give me to my parents.
- In the ATS "Arbat".
- You do not have the right to touch me!

After the child's detention in the ATS "Arbat" later, the father of the boy Ilya Skavronsky arrived later. According to him, the son has not begun, but recalled excerpts from Gamlet. "He is engaged in theatrical activities. For him, these exits to the street is a struggle with complexes, "said the father. At the same time, he stressed that his wife (she is not the mother's mother) sat nearby and read the book. "Raised the Militia Outfit, they talk about something without her participation. Then he twisted him, she came up, tried to prevent this, "says father.

It was reported that the parent applied the article on the non-fulfillment by the parents of the child's education. Earlier on the network, a video was laid out, where the same boy reads poems on Arbat in early May.

Business FM contacted the evidence of the incident in the center of Moscow Lose Stein.

Lucy Stein evidence Accidents"It came there at the moment when this girl was thrown to the ground, which tried to beat off the boy. I was not a direct detention. I have already seen directly how the boy was blocked into the car. We tried to repel it for some time, but we failed. He was taken away. The girl broke the tablet, broke the clothes. I do not know, in fact, who she has to him. She said that a neighbor. Family friend. For some reason, it was already put out the media as a mother's mother, although the mother was not there in risen. Then I went to the ATS, but I could not let there. And I left. She shouted that he knew this child, he was with her. She did not say that she was a mother. I asked her who she was, she said she was a neighbor. Well knows him. Apparently, some kind of family friend. She never anywhere said that she was mother. She first tried to calm the boy directly. They roasted him between two healthy men inside the car. He had a hysteria. She tried to break into him. The force to police officers did not apply. Just she tried to do so that they could not leave, that is, the door was kept. When I approached, my attention attracted that they straight her rustly hard to earth. I talked to an employee who appears on the video. He took me to the side. Told me that this is a Nishchensky business. It does not seem that this is a Nishchensky business. I, too, at this age gathered some kind of money for some things, I am also from a prosperous family. It does not say anything about what Mafia is. "

In the photo of another witness, it is clear that during a conversation with policemen, an open black and yellow refrigerator bag is standing in front of the child. The child with his father was released from the ATS "Arbat" on Saturday, after arriving at the Department of Lawyers and the Chairman of the Public Council at the Ministry of Internal Affairs Anatoly Kucheren.

Anatoly Kucherenalawyer and Chairman of the Public Council at the Ministry of Internal Affairs "At 11 o'clock in the evening I arrived at the ATS in the Arbat area and saw a boy there. Father Ilya was also there, and the stepmother of Christina, she is Ilya's wife. Accordingly, I began to understand what happened. Police tells me one thing, the father of the boy is another. And in this case, I drove there as a representative of the Public Council at the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, I looked through the video that is in the media. I invited the responsible duty officer of the Central Assembly Cao in order to evaluate the situation after all. Immediately a protocol on an administrative offense was compiled. After the responsible duty officer of the Central Assembly, the Central Asian Central Assembly, respectively, was made the decision of the Central Assembly of Moscow to conduct a service investigation of all the circumstances, but I can say that, of course, first of all, the actions of the police officer should be adequate to the situation. What I saw on the video is definitely all this is very sad, because when we see, when police officers are trying to force a minor, who is ten years old, who read the poems of Gamlet. And at the same time they say that he was alone, and there was no adult, but in the video it is quite obviously seen that there is Christina, let her even appeared who she was saying that she was a neighbor, but, nevertheless Less, since she tries to knock off the child from the police, then it is necessary to go honestly and wisely - invite this woman with a boy in the police department and understand who is who. When the boy shouts, it is quite obvious that the boy is familiar with this woman, let her not mother, let her stepmother, as it turned out, do it all by law, because the actions of police officers provoked this wave of indignation. When we see that the woman shouts "give a child", and at the same time you drag the child into the car, how can these actions be appreciated? I hope that this assessment will be objective and under our control, accordingly, appropriate conclusions will be made to those police officers who carried out the child's detention. Because the inadequacy of behavior is evident. Collected the child money, did not collect money, you will agree, it does not matter. If the child even collected money, begging, and if there is an adult near, which shouts "Do not take a child", invite it with the child in the duty. We are talking about the fact that police officers must act adequate in the situation, and if a policeman is present there, respectively, she must have certain skills, how to communicate with the child, how to find out the situation. I think that now you need to wait for a service check. I, as a representative of the Public Council at the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, will insist that the evaluation is given, including the preparation of the administrative protocol. All this will be in the field of view and public council and, accordingly, those leaders of the MOSCOW MOSCOW, which will conduct this official audit. Of course, for begging can be held accountable. Including responsibility, if we are talking about a child, then responsibility towards adults. But it is necessary to do this by law. Make it need correctly. Here the question is placed on the other. The fact that the child is a minor one was on the street, and at the same time alleged there he collected, someone threw him money. I have not seen this simply. "

Did the police have the right to delay the boy, and how did law enforcement officers who actually had to act?

Evgeny Chernousovcolonel militia retired, expert legal department of the Main Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Moscow"The administrative procedure may be broken if the boy was expressed by obscene absenteeism, he behaved unworthy, praised to citizens or would be drunk, or used drugs. Then all questions related to his detention by police officers did not cause any doubts. In this case, indeed, the child did not commit any offenses. And what he asked for help, then there is also no administrative offense here, since this is not spelled out in the law. Please any citizen have the right to ask for help for various reasons. Police could only ask the child to figure out his personality. Where is his parents, where he lives? Does he need any help? They should not delay, not forcibly, but somehow create it the conditions that he has yet been there, until to organize him nutrition, the place to do not feel delayed. And find out all these questions. If this was not, he could refuse to just go. And he would be right. And no one had the right to deliver to the police department. No one. We have no criminal responsibility for a prosecution. She was only in the Soviet Union. "Broadcasting" - we also have no criminal procedure. Beggarism is then in the system when the teenager would repeatously delayed himself, already manifested himself in this way, would have the information that it consists in a criminal group that uses it, then you can talk about begging. If this is nothing, then there is no more thangging the composition. "

Elena Alshanskayafoundation President "Volunteers to help orphans""The situation of the lack of parents, on the one hand, is not rigidly regulated, and, on the other hand, the current legislation allows the police to see hopelessness in this situation, that is, it is not written" the child must always be with her mother. " We have a law, where it is written that, if a child is an unnexposed, roughly speaking, his parents do not look after him, then the police can pick it up. What a ban is to read poems or play on a pipe, naturally, either. Next, they must take a child to a medical social institution and find parents. They have no duty to demand a fine of them, that is, in this situation they see, again, that this parent does not follow her child. They have such an opportunity to decide that the question is here in poor parental control over the education of the child, and then, of course, there may be an administrative fine or even submitting a case. From my point of view, what is called begging the performance of street artists and musicians is impossible. This is also unregulated this moment. "

Children's Ombudsman Anna Kuznetsova wrote on Facebook: "Of course, I understand that the policeman is not an animator, but this is a child ... We will understand everything."

The head of the Commission on Safety of the Public Chamber Anton Flowers called the incident "strange." He also noted that the police "extremely vigorously explained to the camera passersby the causes of the boy's detention." Another member of the Public Chamber, Chairman of the Commission for Family Support, Children and Maternity Diana Gurtskaya, called the actions of law enforcement officers justified. "Now some wild fucking police officers who climbed the child from the street are unfolded. The fact that he recharged "Hamlet", and did not hold a sign on the salvation of the life of the mother's patient, nothing changes, "said Gurdskaya